
6 6 April 2016
ENVIRONMENT
than +2C, should be the upper limit before
really dire consequences become locked in.
The findings emerging from climate science
pose “fundamental questions about how we
have framed modern society, the whole concept
of economic growth, of progress – all of the
things that have served us very well until now”.
Indeed the 1.5C ‘target’ was in the end included
in the Paris Agreement. Unfortunately, based
on current emissions, the total carbon budget
for this target will have been exceeded within
the next seven or eight years".
He believes the model of constant economic
growth is fundamentally at odds with efforts at
stabilising the global climate system.
“As scientists, it’s hard for us to say this, as
it sounds like we’re touting a political message,
but I think it’s just the political implications of
our science”. Truly accepting the science means
making hard choices, profoundly challenging
our own entitlement to lead high-emissions
lifestyles:
“Quite a few of us on the physics side have
run scared of questioning the economics side,
but we’ve had physics for over 13 billion years…
somehow we think this ephemeral growth para-
digm is more important than fundamental
physics”.
Anderson hasn’t flown, in over a decade. He
thinks the symbolism is important. “Every facet
of aviation is playing against the agenda of
avoiding dangerous climate change”. He
believes that it’s incumbent on people like him
to be morally consistent on emissions if they
really take their work seriously.
The changes being wrought by climate change
this century are, he says, playing out almost as
rapidly as the fallout from previous meteor
strikes. “From a geological point of view, we are
hitting the planet that fast, that hard – and con-
sciously. We know we are doing it, and we know
we can do something to avert it”.
Anderson is sceptical about the efficacy of
carbon taxes, but does see merit in the notion
of individual ‘carbon rations’ being allocated.
This could mean that poorer people could
receive net income transfers, while wealthier
people would be heavily penalised for persist-
ing in a carbon-intensive lifestyle. The
advantage he sees in this system, apart from
social equity, is that the wealthy in society typi-
cally drive innovation, but only when the price
signals are clear.
He sees financial transfers from high-emit-
ting countries to the lower-emitters not as
charity but as reparations. “We have imposed
on other parts of the world huge levels of
damage and… we have constrained their ways
of resolving these problems”.
The proposed transfer of $100bn a year is, he
points out, less than one fiftieth of the annual
subsidies propping up fossil fuel usage.
“Despite what we on islands on the western
edge of Europe might think, we are not insu-
lated from the impacts of increased foods
costs, of migration and military tension. All of
those things will play out in the UK and across
Ireland”, he adds.
Anderson is deeply troubled by the plight of
other species. “We have removed ourselves
from the natural world, when we are really part
of it, and completely reliant upon it…seeing our
-
selves as separate (from nature) has been part
of the problem here”. Earth sciences are, he
says, giving us “as clear a warning as we should
ever need that we have to do something very
rapidly”.
A crucial motivation for Anderson, beyond
just the science, is his sense of wonder, mixed
with growing alarm, for the natural world.
“There is a beauty to our planet, not as a
static Victorian view of it…the dynamics, the
beauty of evolution on our planet, and what we
have done, consciously and knowingly, is we
have come in like the meteorite and we are
destroying that process overnight…and we’re
not prepared to make the changes to avoid
doing this. To destroy this place of absolute
beauty…we have the arrogance to think we can
destroy, not just ourselves, but take the rest of
it with us”.
Asked to gaze into the crystal ball of the
world between now and mid-century, he
responds:
“The chances are we are going to carry on
choosing to fail. We will make the right noises
and sometimes for the right reasons, but with
the wrong reasoning; the issue about all this is
time.
We are choosing not to take notice of our sci-
ence, and even those of us who work on science
are not being vociferous enough about the
misuse of our science by policy-makers and by
wider society". He concludes. “We’re all in this
collective delusion together. We are choosing
to fail – but we could also choose to succeed”.
A full video recording of the interview with
Kevin Anderson is available at
www.thinkorswim.ie
The climate does not care
about (emissions) efficiency,
it only cares about absolute
levels of emissions
Anderson is sceptical
about the efficacy of
carbon taxes, but does
see merit in the notion of
individual ‘carbon rations’
being allocated